by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:08 am, Post oof. [83] A 2016 study said the case, which it described as a litmus test of Thailand's justice system, "seriously damaged the image of Thailand and of its forces of law and order on the global level". 2023 BBC. [25] There were no known eyewitnesses to the murders. [11] The two met in Koh Tao while staying at the same hotel. The comments below have been moderated in advance. Cambodia Expats Online: Forum | News | Information | Blog, Cambodia's Most Popular Expat Community Forums: Breaking News | Blogs | Nightlife | Khmer Culture | Information | Living, Working & Moving to Cambodia, Post Nick Pearson 2014; We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Two years after her sister was murdered, Laura wrote a Facebook postwarning people not to travel to Thailand claiming Westerners are hated in the country. It will never make any sense. EXCLUSIVE: Lanzarote sticks to its guns and insists it WILL limit tourists and move away from relying on Jeremy Clarkson is axed as Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? She said that following her sister's death even the simplest of tasks had become impossible and said the officers assigned to their family had helped them through their darkest hours. She had no alcohol in her system. Last month, the tragic revelation that backpackers Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, from Jersey had been murdered on the holiday island of Koh . Last month it emerged that two Burmese migrants convicted of the murders faced execution after appeals against their conviction were thrown out. Burmese migrant workers made up an additional 5,000, around 2,000 of these being illegal immigrants who bribe local police by paying 500 baht each month. Need advertising? [15] Some migrants who were questioned complained that officers scalded them with boiling water during interrogations, allegations which were denied by the police. [14][22] The police moved the bodies to prevent them being swept up in the rising tide. [11][19] Several other suspects were also named, amid pressure to produce results, a new one every other day. A British male, thought to have known the two, was named as a person of interested and hunted by police after allegedly fleeing the island on an early ferry for Bangkok. 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[10], Witheridge and Miller travelled and arrived on the island separately on 25 August. Following criticism for the way the case has been handled, police are now working with detectives from Scotland Yard. Thailand is Cambodia's neighbor to the West, and this forum is dedicated to Thai news, stories, reviews, blogs, videos, Thai people and anything else related to the country. The last pictures - on night backpackers beaten to death: New CCTV revealed as Thai police investigate copycat killing theory. A lot of expats have both lived and worked in Cambodia and Thailand, and this area is a place to discuss all aspects of life in Thailand and what's going on there. job, Jeremy Clarkson has broken his silence following claims Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? They also raised concerns with the absence of legal counsel prior to the confession, as well as difficulties with translation and interpretation. [51][56][57] They argued that the defendants, since they were vulnerable as illegal migrant workers, were scapegoated by the police for the crime. Thailand's prime minister today apologised for suggesting tourists in bikinis made themselves more vulnerable - comments which provoked outrage around the world. I have never had the courage to look. Ben Ellery In Koh Tao, Thailand For Mail On Sunday [67][21][68] The conviction was primarily guided by the DNA evidence,[67][69] and the court said it did not consider their confessions in making the judgement. A pro-bono legal team defending the men has said evidence collected by police was unreliable and not in accordance with internationally accepted standards, arguing it should not have been used to convict them. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Their findings were never made public, but were shared with the families of the victims. We earn a commission for products purchased through some links in this article. [42] In the trial, the prosecution said the phone was found smashed at the home of a friend of Zaw Lin's. They were then recorded at 12.55am leaving, stopping in a convenience store for a toasted sandwich, before walking back to their bungalow. [3] The murders were the first cases of homicide on the island in over eight years. In recent days there has been widespread speculation in Thailand that police have arrested the wrong men. All rights reserved. When do the clocks change in 2023? Home Office pathologist Dr Nat Cary said Miss Witheridge had died from severe head injuries, consistent with multiple blows from the blade of a hoe wielded as a weapon and it was likely she would have died 'rapidly'. The fact that she is not here, affects us every day.'. Revealed: Hacked nude celebrity photos had been on 'deep web' black market for a WEEK - and there could be even more to come. [29][30] The police initially speculated about who the culprit might be, alleging various individuals of perpetrating the crime without clear evidence. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd. Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. This could technically be counted as a crime scene as she was DUI but the aftermath of Nikki Catsouras (Porsche girl) crash is engrained on my brain forever. The family of a woman murdered in Thailand have been "traumatised" by photos being circulated online. Her daughter had tried to allay her fears by talking to them by Skype or sending messages every day, she said. [70] Wai Phyo was also convicted of theft for allegedly stealing a phone and sunglasses from Miller's body. Elise Dallemagne 2017; Mr Miller's body was discovered with severe head injuries several metres away, he said. The investigation of the Witheridge and Miller slayings was widely criticized as the crime scene was not properly secured, and questions were also raised about subsequent DNA testing. David's body is in the water in the picture captioned 'Photo of the resort' - just saying as I missed it several times when the pics first came online. [36] Footage near the crime scene also showed one of the three men running into a shortcut. [1][15][21], During an hours-long interrogation, during which the police used Burmese food vendors as interpreters[35] because the pair could not speak Thai,[41] the suspects confessed to the murders. They had no prior criminal records. 9 Oct 2014. [50], An 18-day trial began on 8 July 2015 in the Koh Samui Provincial Court. Miss Witheridge's parents Tony and Susan Witheridge announced Laura's death today, saying they had been left in 'indescribable' pain. It is suggested David Miller was killed with a blunt piece of metal and not the rusty garden hoe first discovered at the scene and named as a murder weapon. Hannah (pictured right with a friend on Koh Tao shortly before she died) was backpacking in Thailand while studying at the University of Essex to be a speech therapist. *if you admit to regrets* which is the biggest of your life. Oh Yes, this one is gruesome . Block of flats among this week's plans Block of flats among this week's plans, Four-bed cottage with amphitheatre style gardens is for sale for 745,000, Defence from Riley Peckham continues as he explains relationship with his father Defence from Riley Peckham continues as he explains relationship with his father, 'You stupid boy!' In a speech broadcast live on Thai TV yesterday, he said: There are always problems with tourist safety. The couple was found half-naked in a secluded area of Sai Ree beach on the Phangan district island around 6.30am Monday. "There has been lots of chit-chat on the internet. Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. 11:58 GMT 20 Sep 2014 Christina Annesley 2015; [90][91], The 2014 murders, along with other deaths and disappearances of tourists, led to British tabloids labelling Koh Tao as "Death Island". While Thai police are still investigating their deaths (the Burmese migrant workers, Zaw Lin and Win Zaq Htun, both 21, who previously confessed have now withdrawn their confessions) shocking photos of the backpackers' bodies are now circulating online, leaving their loved ones understandably horrified and disgusted. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. In December 2015, the pair were convicted of the murder and sentenced to death. They said it was 'difficult to say' whether the pair's killer or killers was still on the island, and then claimed investigations had pointed them to a group seen on the beach playing the guitar and singing 'western songs'. A police officer told the trial of the severe injuries Miss Witheridge suffered and evidence she had been raped. Five days since the . Well, guess what? Luke Miller, a bricklayer from the Isle of Wight, was then found dead in a pool on the island in 2016 with Thai police saying there was no evidence of foul play, despite his family saying they had received conflicting reports of events before his death. [53], The prosecution's case focused on findings of the police and medical examiner, with an emphasis on the DNA evidence. September 18: Police claim DNA from two men alongside that of Miss Witheridge has been discovered on a cigarette butt 50 yards from where the 23-year-old's body was found. DeSantis won't say he's running. [31][65] Jane Taupin, an Australian forensic scientist brought in by the defence, claimed that the timeline of DNA extraction was dubious; a rapid analysis of DNA samples had happened in less than 12 hours,[34] which she said was unusual because "extracting DNA from mixed samples was difficult and time-consuming". Allegations about police brutality rocked the countrys economy that almost solely relies on tourism. Direct quotations from the trial are unavailable, as the judges did not permit the public to take notes. 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The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. Officers claimed they had 'strong evidence' to link six Burmese workers to the gruesome murders, though no forensic links could be made. A subreddit dedicated to the unresolved mysteries of the world. , updated Many raised concerns that contamination cast doubt upon the forensic evidence: officials, journalists and tourists were seen walking around the crime scene, and Thai police did not use trained or independent specialists to collect forensic evidence. Have a story or an anonymous news tip for CEO? Hannah Witheridge seen looking relaxed and wandering streets with . [71], A lawyer for the men, Nakhon Chomphuchat, said "we will appeal as soon as we can, we have just got a copy of the court's verdict. [1][31] Pornthip Rojanasunand, a Thai forensic scientist, testified at the trial that the crime scene was poorly managed. 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Their semi-naked bodies were discovered on the beach near rocks only 100 yards from the scene of the party. As of July last year, the total stood at ten. Cosmopolitan participates in various affiliate marketing programs, which means we may get paid commissions on editorially chosen products purchased through our links to retailer sites. But they were found innocent by an all white jury. "We'll go with the flow as much as we can. The Mirror reports that Hannah's family have pleaded for the photos of the pair, who were brutally murdered on a Thailand beach, to be taken off the internet. Norfolk coroner Jacqueline Lake recorded a conclusion that Hannah had been unlawfully killed. Phyo and Lin initially confessed to raping Miss Witheridge before beating her and Mr Miller to death, but later recanted, saying they were tortured. September 19: Thai officials collect DNA samples from workers in bars and restaurants in Koh Tao. [6] Miller had just completed his undergraduate degree in civil and structural engineering at the University of Leeds and was starting a masters degree. DNA was collected from these three areas and sent to a police forensics lab for analysis. Ill leave this post up anyway for anyone whos interested. Defence lawyers had asked for the samples to be independently verified but have now been told there is nothing left of them to re-test. However, the event did not materially affect tourism to the island over the following years. Very gruesome, theres one photo of his parents looking at him in the coffin and I really cant imagine what they mustve felt knowing theyd lost their son, he was murdered for nothing, and the horrible thing they were looking at was him. Valentina Novozhenova 2017; On 15 September, the bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found on Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao, between 4 and 5 am, a few hours after their deaths.Both victims had been hit several times on the head; Witheridge had been raped, and Miller had been drowned. She allowed Jet magazine to print pictures of his dead body. 2040 / 2557, Regional Court of Appeal VIII No. While collecting forensic evidence, tourists and locals were allowed to walk on the beach. "Time makes the pain of this horrendous tragedy no easier to bear," they said in a statement. by Soi Dog Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:35 am, Post had been axed by ITV following his recent comments about Meghan Markle, France double Cheltenham Stayers' Hurdle challenge inspired by all-time great Baracouda, Henri Le Farceur will be supplemented for the Paddy Power Stayers' Hurdle at the 2023 Cheltenham Festival. Cambodia Expats Online is the most popular community in the country. Truth about Covid care home testing row: Timeline lays bare what was said, by who and when. Thai police have been criticised for leading a chaotic investigation into the deaths of David Miller and Hannah Witheridge in which the line of inquiry has changed several times. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:47 am, Post My Facebook page is called KOH TAO DEATH ISLAND. [37] Two weeks after the bodies were found, on 1 October 2014, police interrogated Mau Mau, who said he took the motorcycle and separated from the other two men before the murders occurred, and found them both home asleep by the time he had returned. [52] The suspects were defended pro bono by two lawyers from the Lawyers Council of Thailand. But his family said at the time that they had not received an autopsy report and had suspicions about the death. What they did was fairly run of the mill for the Jim Crow South. 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